Monday, August 31, 2009

Andrew Linzey on animal rights

Here is a short video that's very interesting...Andrew Linzey on animal rights from his christian perspective:

Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Elizabeth Carlisle case: update 1

As I promised in my previous post, I am keeping you all up-to-date on the Elizabeth (Liz) Carlisle case. If you don't know who she is or what she did...just read my previous post about her: Elizabeth Carlisle: drowning pet rabbits is exciting

But just to give a quick recap: Elizabeth Carlisle is a 20 year old girl who worked at a petland store in Ohio (Akron). She thought it was a good idea to drown two neglected rabbits while cursing at them that they should 'die already', then she had a picture taken of herself holding the two dead animals while smiling. This one:



Then she posted it on her facebook account and bragged to all her friends about what she did. It seems to me she got off on it. My opinion: beyond sick!

Anyway: yesterday her case (two counts of animal cruelty) appeared before court, and you guessed it! She pleaded not guilty. This boggles my mind really: she admitted to doing it on facebook, we have a picture of her, she bragged about it and told everyone that she was screaming at the drowning rabbits to die faster (clearly indicating that they suffered horribly),...

The list goes on and on. But still she pleads innocent. This will be an interesting court case to follow indeed.

A local Ohio newspaper also featured the story: accused rabbit abuser faces protesters and pleads not guilty

Elizabeth's lawyer said this in her defense:

''I think when all the facts come out, I think people will understand who Liz is, not this monster that holds up rabbits and thinks it's a joke,'' he said. ''She doesn't. She takes this very seriously. She an avid animal lover.''


Ok: so she is an avid animal lover who drowns animals, takes pics while laughing about it and, shows all her friends and proudly tells all the gruesome details? Curious animal lover don't you think? This almost seems like an appeal to the public to sympathize with her...But what about the issues?

Legally an animal should be killed in a quick and humane way. Drowning it isn't quick and humane. And the condition the rabbits were in also indicates inhumane conduct at the store before they were killed by Elizabeth Carlisle.

I also find it odd that they refer to Petlands policies that might come into play in her defence. Petland denies that there are any policies allowing Liz her behavior. But even if there were, that just indicates that Petland itself and possibly other employees are also treating animals in a gruesome and unacceptable manner.

That doesn't let her off the hook. She did something wrong: period. If other people did something wrong too, then they should be punished as well if there is evidence to support it: period.

Liz is 20 years old. She knew what she was doing and she could have refused if she didn't want to drown these animals. She did it and she clearly didn't mind.

Several people came to the Akron courthouse to protest and demand punishment. Here is what one of them had to say:

Elinore Israel of Akron Voices for Animals was among the protesters. She said Carlisle's guilt is beyond question based on her Facebook entry alone.

''It was a horrid crime that she committed, and we're here to show people that there are those of us who are not going to stand for it. We're not going to stand back while animals are being abused. It's unforgivable and I hope they throw the book at her.''


Something else I would like to point out: retarded comments. Yes, totally retarded. It doesn't matter how sick something is or how horribly wrong. There are always going to be people willing to defend it. Especially when it comes to animals... It seems to me that many of those commenters are from Akron, I wonder why?

One struck me as very weak in argumentation: several of them asked why nobody was protesting at the courthouse when a case of homicide appeared before court involving a murdered child.

Well, if nobody was there...then that must mean that they weren't there protesting either. So, if they care about it and blame others for not being there, while they themselves where not there...it doesn't make sense now does it? Or they don't care and just use it as a cheap argument. And that is a shamefull tactic.

It seems logical to me that people are protesting over these animals because there is a big problem when it comes to animal cruelty, and people seem to escape punishment because such horrid crimes aren't always taken seriously. And why? because there are always idiots who are willing to defend it with shady logic and bad ass talk.

I think it is time that a clear signal is given that animals aren't just emotionless objects that you can torture and kill at your very whim. This has to stop!

And this signal will have to come from society at large (this involves the law, politics, ...). It is time that something changes.

Friday, August 7, 2009

Elizabeth Carlisle: drowning pet rabbits is exciting

I was very disturbed by a terrible case of animal abuse in the US that has been the center of attention there for the last couple of days.

What happenend?

A 20 year old girl from Akron Ohio decided to work at a pet store.

What did she do at the pet store?

Treating everyone with a smile of innocence:



While drowning rabbits...

[sarcasm] And as Elizabeth Carlisle found out, it is fun. Of course, any sensible person equates drowning defensless animals with an amusement park ride...so why not take some pictures of this horrid animal abuse case and post it on facebook. To show how much fun you had! That is like so normal...totally not psycho![/sarcasm]

I hope your jaw has dropped an inch or two after seeing this picture, it should.

Animal rights group Peta was made aware of this terrible animal abuse in an Ohio Petland store (Akron) and quickly sounded the alarm. And thank God that they did.

In a few days time the pet store was closed down, Elizabeth (Liz) Carlisle got sacked and charges for animal cruelty have been brought against her.

You can read about it on the peta blog:

Bunnies drowned at Ohio petland

This is just one more piece of evidence for me that Petland employees are no angels indeed. And the way Liz seems to think about this cruel treatment is disgusting.

According to the Peta blog she stated the following to friends on her facebook account, when they asked her if she drowned these animals:

On Carlisle's Facebook page, she confirmed a friend's guess that she had drowned these two rabbits and wrote, "[T]he manager took the pic for me. [S]he reminded me that there were people outside as [I] was swearing at them to just hurry up and die but then she was so kind as to take this picture."


So, let me get this straight. She took a picture of herself smiling after killing two bunnies in a horrible way, laughed about it, then posts it on facebook and explains the world that while she was killing them she was swearing at the animals on top of it? And we all know how easy rabbits can be stressed and scared. So this increased the suffering of these animals even more.

The cruel life and death they had to endure at the hands of Elizabeth (or Liz according to some sites) is apparent on the pic.

It boggles my mind that anyone can even do that, let alone laugh and bragg about it. How can you even sleep at night? Of course, if you are devoid of any moral compass...it might not be so difficult I am afraid.

The PETA blog further states:

Other comments Carlisle posted made it clear that the rabbits were drowned after sustaining agonizing injuries when they were allowed to "attack and eat each other." The rabbits suffered from "deep wounds all over," "an eye missing," what Petland staff "suspected was a broken jaw," and paralysis from the waist down—injuries that would not have occurred had these animals been provided with proper care and supervision.


So she treated the animals like crap while they lived, while slowly killing them and afterwards...plain and simple.

And this isn't the first time this sort of thing happens in a pet store as far as I can remember. And Petland doesn't have a the best track record...(just google it up)

I am relieved though that charges have been filed against her, as we can read on the website of the Akron Municipal Court: charges against liz carlisle

According to the weekly vice blog Elizabeth carlisle's case will come to court on the 17th of August:

Elizabeth Carlisle as bunny undertaker

Carlisle was booked into jail on two counts of harming a companion animal. She is scheduled to be arraigned on August 17.


The way her father defends me also bothered me:

Carlisle's father, Joe Carlisle, defended his daughter, describing her as a respectful young woman simply working her way through college.

"She is a good, good person who is innocent totally as a human being of any and all wrongdoing," insisted Carlisle.


What she said and did wasn't innocent...I hate to break it to you. The picture doesn't seem very innocent to me. To me she seems about as innocent as Sarah Palin is when she is standing next to a Moose with a smoking gun in her hand and blood all over her face.

The weekly Vice is spot on the money by making this statement:

I'm not sure what bothers me more. The sadistic look on this creepy chic's face as she holds the corpses of two dead animals - or the complete disregard of this vile act by the woman's father.


Elizabeth Carlisle may not get of the hook! She deserves to be punished for this blatant cruelty. We need to send a clear sign that this sort of behavior is not accepted in a civilized society.

We should evolve towards a society where animals are no longer treated as if their lives and their suffering has no meaning. We need to evolve to a world where there is more empathy for animals.

I think Liz should never be allowed to work in a pet store again, nor have pets or work in a pound. And if she needs to do some jail time and pay a couple of hefty fines: good! as far as I'm concerned.

Elizabeth: those animals you killed suffered and suffered horribly...for no good reason whatsoever. There is no excuse for this. How can you live with yourself? Do you even realize how evil it is what you have done?

a tv-segment about it:



Some more reading material: Elizabeth Carlisle may not be isolated incident

I will follow this case as it develops and write more about it in the future...

Saturday, August 1, 2009

Swine flu and meat production

Recently I made a blogpost concerning the recent Swine flu (H1N1) outbreak, in response to some statments made by the Peta watch blog.

Today I came to the conclusion that they have read this blogpost...and that they didn't get what I was saying.

They even dedicated a blogpost to it. Read it here: Empathy for the uninformed

This is a quote of mine...

'Did Peta state that you are going to catch the H1N1 virus from eating meat? Not that I know...'


Their response:

Depicted above is the billboard PETA erected in Glasgow, which at our count lists the words Swine Flu at least five times.


A billboard? Ladies and gentleman: exhibit A



Yes, Peta said: Meat kills...

Now, again: does this billboard state that you will get swineflu from eating meat? Where exactly? I don't see it.

I have on the other hand dedicated my previous post on this topic linking meat production - meat - with the development of this recent Swine flu pandemic that already killed about 1000 people.

So in that sense: yes, meat kills...both people and animals.

You can read the previous blogpost here: Swine flu and vegetarianism